Reader comments: Powder scares at 2 LDS temples, Catholic plant
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I could be wrong and this event along with recent protests against the church regarding proposition 8 could be completely unrelated, and I would welcome being proved wrong.
I completely respect the right to assemble given to all Americans. It's a necessary right guaranteed by the constitution. I don't respect people who carry around envelopes full of white powder, presumably harmless, and pass it around to scare people.
No on Prop. 8 has its merits. Yes on Prop. 8 has its merits also. Neither side is completely wrong, neither side has no poor repercussions if their side won.
What do we do when we cannot come to a consensus? We have a vote. The people voted. Let's not call them bigots, on either side. They are doing what they feel is right. Let us all do that, and then be tolerant enough to let people have their own views.
Get ready the hoe is digging deep in the weeding out process!!!
If this cowardly act is linked to the "No on Proposition 8" supporters, it speaks volumes. In addition to being prosecuted by Federal authorities, the leaders of the "No on Proposition 8" movement should denounce and condemn the act.
This type of behavior will do far more damage in the court of public opinion than any "message" those responsible for this hoped to make to the LDS Church and its members.
I have 2 other serious concerns however that neither side seems interested in answering.
First that if marriage is to be redefined that it be the will of the people on a federalists (state by state basis) Just like acceptance or rejection of abortion, redistributive taxes, and immigration all need to get off the federal level or we are going to head to another civil war. Let states reap the good and bad from their decisions rather then forcing their morality on the rest of us.
Second soon after gay marriage is legalized any religions that teach homosexuality is a sin will be susceptible to hate crime charges. This would eventually include casting such church leaders into prisons and revoking their tax exempts status. (it will just take one violent psychopath who the media can paint as religious to give politicians the excuse)
Even those churches that disallow gay people to marry in their buildings or temples will also be sued or declared non-tax exempt. (this has already happened more then once in states with gay marriage)
In short it is either freedom of religion or gay marriage.
I may be anti-gay marriage but I dont want to see this escalate any farther than protests and discussions. However due to recent acts of vandalism and assault being associated with no2prop8 supporters they need to act quick to distance themselfs from this one.
The church leaders asked us to love and not judge. You could learn something from them before you speak again and throw both Mormons and gays under the bus which you just did in your comment.
Why would someone send something like this directly to the SL Temple? Why not Church HQ?
Doesn't all the mail go through the office building mail room?
I think we need more info.
On the other hand, I have to admit Eric at 5:43 really confuses me. Either he does not understand Proposition 8, is really confused about the position the church took, or does not like it when other people espouse his political position.
Hey for all we know this was sent by someone mad about polygamy. The fact that the church has been excommunicating people for practicing polygamy for nearly a century does not prevent people from vocally speaking out against the churh on such issues, and so there is no reason to believe it prevents hate acts based on this issue as well.
My point is there are many reasons people decide to hate the church.
No use blaming this on every gay or every Prop8 opponent. It's just one wacko out there somewhere.
It's not a good idea to point fingers until we know anything for sure, but after Mike-Riverside, CA at 6:35 p.m. posted that there was an envelope delivered to the L.A. temple, it would appear that this could be going in the direction of a definite hate crime.
Still, I think we must act in a mature manner, and understand that these are extremists who do things like this. But what the public does with this information, well, that's a different story. Seems like they like to choose who they rally around if it fits their agenda and biases. Even so, it's useless to get bitter. Better to move forward.
"This probably has nothing to do with gay people. You are showing the kind of prejudice and hate that they keep accusing us of having against them. Let's just hope there was no harm done and move on without pointing fingers until the authorities have actually confirmed something."
There is a lot of evidence that it was a gay person who was behind this. They vandalize the Los Angeles Temple, attempt to intimidate worshipers at the Salt Lake Temple, make hateful comments online about how our Temples should be burnt down, how we should all watch our backs. Now there is evidence that people are burning copies of the Book of Mormon, setting fires outside of LDS Chapels. When you add it all together its safe to assume that a gay person is behind this.
The very nature of their protests are a tyrannical attempt to intimidate Mormons into not voting in the next election or donating to opposition to same-sex marriage. Even by themselves these protests are all terrorist acts.
To The Members in California: Please know that we are praying for you and have been all along. We celebrate your courage. Now your governor and others are calling for the courts to overturn the will of the people instead of defending your religious freedom and your rights as citizens.
Please, we must all continue to work, pray and fight for what's right. Thanks to all the other Churches and individuals who are standing up and defending us. We must all stand together in a righteous cause.
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